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Get What You Want By Being Committed To Yourself with Angela Marshall





“You have to commit to yourself to help yourself get what you want.” -Angela Marshall

To whom are you committed to right now? Is it anyone outside yourself? No doubt you’ll be loving today’s episode. Shirley and Angela discuss the importance of being equally committed to what you want and what you don’t want. They also talk about the skillset you need to cultivate in order to get what you want. Deeper into their conversation, Angela gets to talk about her book, Reality to Rags to Riches, and why it resonates with many. Angela also shares her ultimate ‘get what you want equation’. Listen in and fill your box with these additional tools!



Highlights:


02:51 Get What You Want- Be Committed

07:18 Get What You Want- Be Confident

10:21 Get What You Want- Be Phenomenally Beautiful

16:06 Get What You Want- Be True

19:41 Get What You Want- Be “Rich”

25:54 Get What You Want- Do The Math

30:21 Get What You Want- Love Life


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Quotes:


  • 05:51 “In order to get what you want, you have to be just as committed to knowing and not doing what you don't want in life.” -Angela Marshall

  • 06:11 “Whatever it is that you want in life, stick to it. Don't give up, don't give in, and don't give out.” -Angela Marshall

  • 22:06 “I'm no longer an image, I'm an influencer.” -Angela Marshall

  • 23:36 “You have to commit to yourself to help yourself get what you want.” -Angela Marshall

  • 27:31 “Once we know what we want and we know that we can get it, all the in-between parts are fun…” -Shirley Owens

  • 27:50 “You have to have a certain amount of pain but when you couple that with persistence and perseverance, then you win.” -Angela Marshall


Connect With angela:

Angela Marshall is a Motivational Presenter, Best-Selling Author, Creative Content Consultant, ex-NFL wife, and business owner of In Other Words, By Stone. Also known as Author Stone, Angela is a positive words powerhouse that utilizes her personal life experiences of struggle, strength, and success to captivate audiences and readers abroad. Angela is also a community advocate, youth mentor, and supporter. She resigned from 20 years in the corporate world to embrace the purpose that has pursued her throughout her life to be unmasked, unchained, and untamed. She struggled through a lavish but sorely lacking lifestyle as a former NFL wife. That chapter in her life produced the transparency in her inspiring, inquiring autobiography, Reality to Rags to Riches- The Story and Life of an Ex-NFL Wife. Angela is also a featured author in the Women Who Lead Anthology that chronicles successful women across the globe.




Transcriptions

Shirley Owens: My guest today is Angela Marshall. Angela is a motivational presenter, bestselling author, creative content consultant, ex-NFL wife, and business owner of “In Other Words, By Stone.” Also known as “Author Stone.” She is a positive words powerhouse that utilizes her personal life experiences of struggle, strength and success to captivate audiences and readers abroad. Angela is also a community advocate, youth mentor and supporter. Angela resigned from 20 years in the corporate world to embrace the purpose that has pursued her throughout her life to be unmasked, unchained and untamed. She struggled through a lavish but sorely lacking lifestyle as a former NFL wife. That chapter in her life produced the transparency in her inspiring and inquiring minds wanting to know auto-biography, 'Reality to Rags to Riches; The Story and Life of an Ex-NFL Wife." Angela is also a featured author in the “Women Who Lead” anthology that chronicles successful women across the globe. Angela, I know that you are also one of the world's most amazing people, and if I read this list of platforms that you've been featured on, it would take our whole show. So if you've heard it, she's been featured on it. And I just wanted to welcome you. I'm excited to be one of those places that you get to be featured on.


Angela Marshall: Hey, thank you so much. You don't understand how elated and excited I am to be on Get What You Want, and it's so relevant and it's definitely a necessary show, necessary topic in order for you to get what you want in all areas of life, personally, professionally, spiritually, emotionally, physically, financially, socially. So kudos to you and your platform.

“In order to get what you want, you have to be just as committed to knowing and not doing what you don't want in life.” -Angela Marshall

Shirley Owens: Thank you. This is going to be a fun show, I can tell already. So Angela, I know that, Oh, my gosh, you're so remarkable in so many ways. And your story started before you married an NFL player, I'm sure. But let's talk about your story, and what led you through that, and what your journey was, and where you are now.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely. Again, thank you for having me. My story absolutely started prior to the whole NFL life. I just did not realize how much of an impact my story, my journey, my trials and tribulations would be able to positively impact and influence others. So once I started on this journey to just really be transparent about everything that I was going through in my life, I started just unmasking, I started unchaining myself and then turned into me being able to get in front of people, share my struggles to strength, and then also sharing with them how to overcome stumbling blocks to stepping stones, which everybody wants to do, and everybody needs in their life. And I'm still going through a lot of that to a certain extent. But just going from a very unsure, I guess if you would, uncertain young lady growing up, trying to figure life out, then carrying that over into teenage years, young adult in meeting, and eventually marrying someone who would be thrust into the celebrity light, and then you have someone beside you that is unsure of herself. And I actually had not defined myself at that particular time. So it just posed like a lot of insecurity and inadequate feelings within myself. Oh, yes. So I went through that period. He and I had our marriage that I will not say that it was all bad because I honestly can't, I think that I had been in a better place mentally and been more settled inwardly, it probably would have been a lot better. But you take that enormous and then you bombarded with a lot of outside stuff as far as societal pressures and different stuff. And it's just a mix for misery. And that's what we were doing to each other.



So after we decided that we would get a divorce, and of course, I went out into the work world. I was not one of those people that just asked for child support and just sat around twiddling my thumbs while he took care of the children. I actually went to work, I went to a corporate job, I was there for almost 16, 17 years, still unfulfilled in that capacity because I only did that to actually take care of myself, my children. And then at the time I had a mom who was depending on me for supplemental income. So after going through all of those dynamics, and around 2014, 2015, I just decided that I still was not fulfilled. I needed to do some things for me, and I started plucking away at all of those things that I did not want, which is so pivotal for your show, Get What You Want, because I really feel like in order to get what you want, you have to be just as committed to knowing and doing what you don't want in life. I know a lot of people, they get along, what's the saying? Get along, just to get along, or do what you want until you can do what you need to do. But I really think that it's important that whatever it is that you want in life, that you stick to it. Don't give up, don't give in, and don't give out. Just for the sake of either a paycheck or just to have somebody, whether it's in a personal relationship or whatever. You really have to stick to your guns and be committed 100% to what you want in life.

“Whatever it is that you want in life, stick to it. Don't give up, don't give in, and don't give out.” -Angela Marshall

Shirley Owens: I love that. Well, okay, so I have a lot of experience in this professional athlete world, and so many young women say, Oh, I'm going to marry a professional athlete. So I want you to go back a little bit and tell me a little bit about where you were in that place of, married to this man, were you guys married before he started?


Angela Marshall: No.


Shirley Owens: Okay.


Angela Marshall: We met in high school.


Shirley Owens: Well, you did meet in high school. Okay, so you knew this man and he got drafted to the Broncos, right?


Angela Marshall: Yes.


Shirley Owens: Arthur Marshall, okay. So take me back to then, and what it was that you thought that you wanted? And the excitement and your dreams at that point, what were they? And what was it like living in that lifestyle?


Angela Marshall: I'm going to be honest, Shirley, I honestly did not have any thought as to what exactly my world was going to change being in a relationship with him. See, that speaks to just how lost I was as a person. Because most people at that particular time, I've seen, Oh, my God, your boyfriend is going to do this, or your girlfriend's going to do this, or she, or he is going to, their dreams are being realized. But for me, because I did not necessarily have, I guess, dreams for myself, I didn't have goals for myself at that particular time. I had no idea. And that makes all the difference in the world. I think too many times as females, or I'm not going to leave the guys out, we pour so much into another person on what they want to do until we just forget about ourselves.


Shirley Owens: Yeah, we're like the helper, like the assistant--


Angela Marshall: We're the nurturer, we're the giver, we're all of that. So honestly, I just didn't realize that, I knew he talked about going into the NFL and he was gonna make it and all this, but it just did not dawn on me. And since I had been a person who was behind the scenes so many times, it didn't resonate with me. I'm going to be honest, probably the first two years of that lifestyle, it was just like waking up, doing routine things and going on. Like it's starting to resonate. My husband was playing professional football and he was going to a job or going to do something in his career that most people will not get an opportunity to do. He's like getting the ball. He's getting balls thrown from John Elway, with Shannon Sharpe, and things of that nature. So it never resonated with me to that magnitude. I knew he had confidence, that's really what attracted me to him because now I have it what actually I've had it all along. I just had to tap into it. People like that, I am naturally attracted to, and I attach myself to them because I believe that that's one of the other key points to getting what you want in life. You have to be competent, you have to know what you want, you have to align yourself with what you want and then you have to go for it.


Shirley Owens: Yeah. So you're in that life, you're just living day to day. You had two kids, right?


Angela Marshall: Yes. We have two amazing adult children now.


Shirley Owens: Oh, my God. So you're just living in the shadows of this celebrity, and you're raising two children, what was it that had you start looking at yourself and actually recognizing that you weren't even you, that you needed something more. Was there any exact turning point, or was it something that just gradually happened? What was it that made you make that turn to start saying, what about me?


Angela Marshall: Well, I think just knowing the pressures from society, what the standards or perceived standards for a wife or a girlfriend of a professional athlete, that was key number one, I know then I will never fit this puzzle piece. I will never or never be a piece to this particular puzzle.


Shirley Owens: What did that look like?


Angela Marshall: Shirley, I get in trouble when I talk about this piece, but I'm going to be honest. It's just that the standard of beauty that the world tries to hold you up to that. I have a problem with ME personally now, not for anybody else. So let me just throw that disclaimer out there before I did more messages about, I don't speak for everybody with the standard of beauty, NO.


Shirley Owens: This is all about you and I get it, and the world gets it. There is something that is correct, you have to be beautiful out aesthetically on the outside if you are married. And then you also feel the pressure of, if I'm not, or did you also feel the pressure like if you weren't, then something more beautiful would come along.


Angela Marshall: I will say this, I felt very unpretty, I felt inadequate, and I felt like I just would never measure up to what other people thought I should look like from, I mean, down to what you drive, where you live, what your children rear. I mean, it's just that series, I'm not gonna call it pity because for some, again, if that's your mindset and that's how you want to live your life according to those standards, by all means, Hey, have at it. I just never wanted to conform to that, if that makes sense. It just made me feel very heavy. Going to a game should be fun and it should be something that you enjoy because I'm there to support my husband, not in a capacity of a fashion show where my nails have to match my this, and my lipstick has to, I have to have the perfect lip liner and all of that, and I'm being picked apart if I don't, that just was not fun for me.


Shirley Owens: I get it. Oh, I really get it. So you started to notice that maybe you didn't feel like you fit in, there's some inadequacy there, and you weren't living the life that you wanted.


Angela Marshall: Correct. I was living the life that he wanted.


Shirley Owens: Exactly.


Angela Marshall: I was living the life that he wanted. But now let me say this, so again, it's not about, because you have two heads obviously when you're in a relationship. So what he wants and then what you want, but then you merge together and you make it work, that's the way that it's supposed to be.


Shirley Owens: Right.


Angela Marshall: So it wasn't his fault. I'm not saying that. I was with this man and it was just all about him, and it was all about what he wanted. I did not know what I wanted.


Shirley Owens: Most of us don't, honestly.


Angela Marshall: Correct. So it was just really not a good situation for me. So that's why I'm such an advocate, specifically for women, but for anyone that feels like they have to be the standard according to what others say or as I call it, the infamous bay. They're always telling us what the latest style is, what the latest, how I need to do butterflies on my eyeliner, whatever else that makes me cool. Which again, if that's what you like, that's what you like, and you can enhance and maintain yourself however you want to. But what I'm saying is, whether you have those things or not, whether I'm wearing Prada or not, I'm still a phenomenal version of Angela Marshal, and it does not detract from my self worth, that's what I'm getting at.



Shirley Owens: Yeah. And I think this is so important, especially right now during covid. There's a lot of women who aren't feeling adequate, and a lot of people where we're stuck at home, even men, there's something in the world and then all of a sudden they're not, they're at home doing their jobs. And I think that my show, obviously, Get What You Want. And I think that a lot of times, I know that a lot of times we don't know what it is that we want because we are overshadowed and overpowered by this world telling us what we want.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely.


Shirley Owens: Very few people actually really want that. I believe that very few women actually really want all the pressure that the world puts on them to be beautiful. Do we do it? Do we conform? Do we fall into that? We do, but I don't think it's what we want. I think what we want is to be able to just feel beautiful, no matter what, and to have confidence. And we want to be what we see other people, how we perceive other people.


Angela Marshall: Yes.


Shirley Owens: And the more I talked to people, the more I get to know people, the more clients I have. I realized that those people are also looking to other people.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely.


Shirley Owens: Crazy circle. I mean, I see you as beautiful and powerful, and I'm hearing this story and it's like, wait, what? Other women are probably looking at you thinking the same thing, but it's what's going on on the inside that I think people don't realize that I really want to get out there is what you think you are isn't really necessarily what you really want. So okay, so take this journey now, what happened when you started to really realize that, wow, this is not me. This is not who I am. This is not my lifestyle. What was the next step


Angela Marshall: I started making changes just from the way that I speak, the way that I think, I'll tell you, I saw myself, and this is literally I SAW MYSELF, I'm talking about my inner, my outer for the first time in 2014 of January. I was born in 1971, that's volumes to let you know or let the world know that I actually honestly did not fully see myself until January of 2014. I'm talking about looking in the mirror and saying you are phenomenal, You are dynamic, you're pretty, you're intelligent, you're smart, you're powerful. Everything that I needed on my inner to be able to shine out, to bring out on my outer. That's the first time that I actually saw myself.


Shirley Owens: Wow. And that's the juicy stuff because that's what we all want to do. We all want to look in the mirror and be like, wow. Hey, how are you? Hey, I'm beautiful. I'm amazing, I have confidence. I love that.


Angela Marshall: I'm going to tell you the steps that I took to get to that was journaling because I've had so many people over the course of my life that has asked either they misperceive me because of the way that I look, or the texture of my hair, or how we stereotype people when we look at them on outside? Then you move me into this perceived NFL lifestyle where, okay, well, now she really has everything. She has money, she has this man that is a celebrity, and blah, blah, blah, and all of that. So I was just getting tired of that shallow and vain assessment. I want it to be perceived as more, I want it to be viewed as more, and I just want it more for myself. Yeah, I just had to start journaling about it, and the journals then became pages for my book, for my autobiography.


Shirley Owens: Wow. That's exciting.


Angela Marshall: Yes. Yeah. And I'll tell you, it totally set me free, and it's such a cliche where people talk about it all the time, where the truth will set you free. Well, be truthful with yourself. Stop allowing the pressures from the outside, whether it's people, it could be friends, it could be family members, whomever, to decide and dictate your destination for you. It's just a recipe. Again, it's a recipe for misery.


Shirley Owens: Tell me a little bit about your book. What year did you write it in?


Angela Marshall: 2017. I actually published it, but as I mentioned before, I had been journaling about it for quite some time. Yes, that's correct.


Shirley Owens: That's beautiful. And it's reality to rags to riches.


Angela Marshall: That is correct. Reality to rags to riches. And the thought process behind that was, I am a lover of Barnes & Nobles. I walked up and down, well, before social distancing and it closed down everything. I would go to Barnes & Nobles and I would walk up and down the aisles and just visualize seeing my book there one day. I'm an avid reader also, so I saw that there were a lot of rags to riches books, rags to riches, everyone, rags to riches. But I wanted to put a different spin or unique spin on it because there's also marketing and advertising where you do something a little different so that you stand out amongst the crowd. So that's why I then incorporated reality where I give more of a background, more of truth, more of struggles and trials and not just about the rags to riches piece. So I mean, I go deep, I tell people how my childhood, just different things holding on in my childhood, how it affected and it impacted me as a person throughout my life. And I had no idea, none.


Shirley Owens: Oh, yeah. We've got a lot of stuff we dragged into everything, right?


Angela Marshall: Yes. Lots of baggage.


Shirley Owens: So tell me though, riches didn't make you all the things you wanted to be, right?


Angela Marshall: Well, let me say this, it depends on your definition of riches. Most people's definition of riches, when they talk about rags to riches they talk about I was poor and now I'm rich, and I have yachts and I have money. My riches are things that can not be replaced, bonds, connections, family members, friends, time, everything that I now view as priceless. So those are my riches.


Shirley Owens: I love that.


Angela Marshall: I just gave some information out of the book.


Shirley Owens: That's awesome. So you wrote your book, I see that you are on so many different platforms, and you're really standing up for women around the globe. Tell me a little bit about that.

“You have to commit to yourself to help yourself get what you want.” -Angela Marshall

Angela Marshall: Well, they say that sometimes when you can't beat them, you need to join them. So I decided to join the movement because honestly, being misconstrued and stereotyping my entire life, and that's one of the things that I put in my submission to you, where I talk about 'I'm no longer an image, I'm an influencer.' Because the image, if you think about it, sometimes I think people look at women as, we'll use something that's pretty and you should be seen and not heard. So I wanted to dispel the whole, or just knock out the box, the whole rumor, and gossip, and perception about me as a former NFL wife, not having any substance or having any depth, because I've been through some things and people get to talk about their life. They get to talk about their struggles and their journey. But when someone who they think has had an easier lifestyle, when you start voicing or verbalizing different things that you've gone through, how dare you! So that made me even more vigilant in this journey that I'm on to say, no, I have issues too from the certain days not feeling pretty, not feeling good enough, not feeling that I fit, not feeling that I deserve a seat at the table. But now, because I have done the work which I've decided that I'm going to commit to, that's the first thing that you have to do in getting what you want. You have to commit to yourself. Think about it, just when our children want something, or our friends, or coworkers, or employees, employees want something and we commit to helping them get it. Well, you have to commit to yourself to help yourself get what you want no matter what that is, from a personal or professional standpoint. But committing to what you want into yourself, you also have to commit to what you don't want. That's just as big and we forget that, and it falls off because that's how you end up settling. When you don't commit to what you don't want, it's like, okay. Yeah, this was a red flag, or this was a yellow flag, I'll allow it anyway. Maybe it'll change or whatever, but those are things that, if you truly want to get what you want, you have to commit to what you want, and you have to commit to what you don't want.

“I'm no longer an image, I'm an influencer.” -Angela Marshall

Shirley Owens: I really love this. I think it's super relevant. Commitment to me is doing what is necessary. It's doing what is necessary. So if you're committing to what you want, you're doing what is necessary to get what you want. And if you're committing to what you don't want, which I don't talk about this very often, I think this is really, really relevant. And that is doing what is necessary to not have what you don't want in your life.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely. And I'm gonna take it one step furthermore in personal relationships or in business partnerships, that's why they go sour. Think about it, because you know what you want going in, but then you get relaxed on what you don't want, and then it becomes just this mess for everybody. So I think standing firm on what you want in life from a personal, professional, financial, physical, even with your body, working on your physical fitness, your wholeness, your wellness, you have to make sure that you are equally committed to both, 100%.


Shirley Owens: That's wonderful. So let's say we have a listener or a million listeners today listening to this and they're loving your spunk, your confidence, and your knowledge and they want to take one step in the right direction today of getting what they do want. What would be your advice? Just one thing of advice that we can leave our listeners with today where they can start as soon as they are done with this podcast.


Angela Marshall: Okay. That would be dreams plus drive multiplied by determination equals destination, that's how you get what you want. So dreams, whatever that is, what personal, professional, financial, whatever, whatever your dream is, whatever your goal is. So dreams plus drive, then you have to multiply that by determination, so that means work, a lot of work that you have to put in, a lot of commitment, a lot of dedication, loyalty, a lot of do's and don'ts, and decisions, heal, decline. So you multiply that by the determination and then you will get it equals your destination. You will arrive at whatever you want from life.



Shirley Owens: That is perfect. And I think when we say work, we could always put another word to that. When you say determination and drive, for me, I love the work part. It excites me. We were just camping this last weekend, social distancing out in the middle of nowhere, and my husband went dirt bike riding, and the first thing I wanted to do was work. And it's funny, working on my business, working on my, I have an online course I'm creating, like all the things in the world that could be doing at that time, that's what I wanted to do. So work, and when you're working towards your dreams, it doesn't feel like work. If it's exciting, and it's confidence building, it's power building. And I wanted to add that in because I see that in you. Like this is the fun part, right? The work is the fun part. Once we know what we want and we know that we can get it, all the in between part is fun, and growing, and learning, and there's a lot of speed bumps along the way.

“Once we know what we want and we know that we can get it, all the in-between parts are fun…” -Shirley Owens

Angela Marshall: Absolutely. And it should be because that denotes growth. That means that you're evolving. So unfortunately, you have to have a certain amount of pain, but you couple that with persistence and perseverance, and then you win. But that's in all areas, so it's not just about working towards your dreams or your goals from a professional standpoint, there's work in relationships. That's why it bothers me sometimes when people say, Oh, well, my relationship is complicated. And something is all balanced because it shouldn't be, it shouldn't be complicated. I mean, you know what you want, he knows what he wants, they know what they want. You know what you don't want, you know what they don't want. You merged it together and it should be a recipe for you guys to be able to work together and have something really great, not something complicated. That's crazy, that doesn't make any sense. But it just goes back to what I was saying before, when you allow certain things, I don't think it's so much as, I don't want to use the term anymore about settling, people settle. I don't think that's it, I think there's just certain things that you allow. You know what you want, you know what you don't want, and if you're not getting it from that person, you're not getting that fulfillment from that job, or from that employment, or from that business, then it's time to take a step back and reassess, and make sure that you're assessing for you, not for that person. Because so many times we do that, and we stay in, we stay in, we put up with X, Y, Z, or we continue to throw money at a bad idea, or a particular business that we probably just let go and go in a different direction. But we don't, because of that very reason.

“You have to have a certain amount of pain but when you couple that with persistence and perseverance, then you win.” -Angela Marshall

Shirley Owens: Yeah. It's like there's some kind of loyalty there but it's not for ourselves. I have this quote on my desk right now and it's by Richard Branson and he says--


Angela Marshall: Love him.


Shirley Owens: "Any fool can make something complicated. It is hard to keep things simple.” And I have it on my desk because I try to think about that everyday. Am I complicating this more, like you said, can just be simple and always can happen in life or it can happen to us. Because everyday, the sun comes out. Everyday, the sunsets, and it's going to happen. It's what we do with it, it's our intentions, it's our commitments to what we want. And our commitments, what we don't want. And I love that because if you don't clearly happen to your day, or to your relationship, or to your business, to yourself, it's going to happen to you.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely. You have to set the intention, and then you have to affirm that you love life and life loves you.


Shirley Owens: So I always ask my guests this one question and that is, is there anything that you regret or wish you could do over in your life?


Angela Marshall: Oh, my gosh. Let's see, yes. If I could have had, or been a little bit more disciplined, should I say, to leave my employment, the corporate employment years, years ago, I would be a lot further in my entrepreneurship or in my business. But I battled back and forth with it because of the money, because of the security of the benefits and all of that even though I wasn't happy, even though I wasn't fulfilled. So I would say that that is a huge regret in my life to not do, to put one foot in front of the other end and believe in myself, believe in my brand, believe in my business. What I was trying to do, this next phase and next journey of my life, what I was trying to accomplish is to leave a lot sooner because I think that it gave me a false sense of security and that's at the time, that's not what I needed. What I needed was to believe in myself.


Shirley Owens: How can my listeners get in touch with you. I'm sure there is someone out there that would love to reach out, wants to reach a book, would love to have you speak, be on their show. I mean, you are extremely inspiring. So tell me how we can get a hold of you.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely. Thank you again for having me. I enjoyed every minute, every moment of it. I'm so glad that we connected and I'm looking forward to connecting with your listeners and your viewers. I'm on every social media outlet. I also can be reached via my personal website, which is www.inotherwordsbystone.com. And I am just elated to be able to help in any way fashion or form with my services and my skills, or sometimes it's not about me, it's about just being in service to other people, being that connector or that network for other people. And I'm on LinkedIn for that reason, which is how you and I got connected. So thank you so much again for that, I truly appreciate it. I'm looking forward to getting back out into society and just being able to be personal and interact one-on-one so much, Shirley, that I actually put on regular clothes today because I just been in yoga pants, or sweat, or tank tops for so long and I was like, Oh, I want to get back into my clothes, my casual and business clothes and start socializing again.


Shirley Owens: That's awesome. Yeah, I did that too. It's like, Oh, I'm going to talk to somebody and people are just going to have, somehow, if I'm in a bun and sweats or not.


Angela Marshall: Absolutely.


Shirley Owens: Thanks so much for being here. All of your links are going to be on my website, so if anyone didn't catch that, just go on my website and you'll be able to get in touch with Angela. And I'm so grateful that you're here, thank you so much and I can't wait to get to know you in person.


Angela Marshall: Yes, I am so excited. I'm praying that all of this stuff will return us to some sort of normalcy and then create some areas that we probably needed to improve in any way during this downtime. So I'm looking forward to it.


Shirley Owens: For sure. Thank you so much Angela.


Angela Marshall: Thank you. Have a great one.



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